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Parrish Baker's avatar

I always felt it was not a color comparison, but an intensity comparison. Wine is dark. The sea is darker than the sky and the pale land. Therefore, wine is to cup as sea is to world, lying dark in and all around it.

Paul Fishman's avatar

Same here. Something like, 'the sea is dark (rich, profound) like wine is dark', not 'the sea is the same colour as wine'.

Ben Pobjie's avatar

I think two things are relevant: 1. The phrase is “wine-dark”, not “wine-coloured” and 2. The Greeks didn’t have a word for blue.

Adam Roberts's avatar

γλαυκός?

Sam B's avatar

This theory is discussed more here: https://radiolab.org/podcast/211213-sky-isnt-blue/transcript

I don't have enough (any) greek to know. But it does point out some other odd color descriptions in Homer. Or the possibility that he was just color blind hah.

Ben Pobjie's avatar

But they didn’t have a word for blue. Several words for blue, yes. But not one.

Anne Wilson's avatar

I'm inclined to go with 2. In any case Ancient Greek colours did not always map onto ours.

There are a number of lovely kraters with an inner rim of ships so that when the bowl was full the ships looked as though they were sailing on the wine-dark sea. Some pictures here: https://www.petersommer.com/blog/another-thing/ships-on-Santorini-krater

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SJ's avatar

Four colly (coaly, dark-colored) birds / Four calling birds